@arch I'd just refuse to adhere to #UK #Cyberfascism as a matter of principle!

• But then again I've been using @torproject / #Tor on mobile for 10+ years now as a #PerformanceProxy in #EDGEland…

#UKpol #fascism #Censorship #InternetCensorship

@waldschnecke @fasnix ja, allein wer in #EDGEland unterwegs ist wird trotz #PerformanceProxy (#Tor) das brauchen...

• Und per #Iridium (2400 bit/s [!!!]) und anderer #Satcom ist das sowieso keine Frage!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWkjuDI9RSo

@VegaHarmonia depends...

#EDGEland is slow but using @guardianproject / #Orbot as #PerformanceProxy through @torproject / #Tor makes it feel zippier...

For over a decade #MobileInternet in #Germany has been so abysmal that I'm still using @torproject / #Tor (or rather @guardianproject #Orbot ) as a #PerformanceProxy¹ for mobile browsing, messaging and social media.

• It's really absurd how we're still in #EDGEland!

#DEpol #Netzpolitik #Infrastruktur #Digitalistan #Schlandistan #Infrastructure #Broadband #2G #3G #4G #LTE #5G #BFWA #WWAN #GSM #GPRS #HSPA #HSDPA #HSUPA #

#WasFehlt: vorgeschriebene #Kindersicherung bei #Koaxialkabel|n und #Kabelsanschluss-Dosen...

Denn so sieht das aus wenn ein [mutmaßliches Nachbars-] Kind mutmaßlich ne Büroklammer in ne Kabeldose klemmt:

• Latenzen wie bei #Eutelsat #tooway ohne #PerformanceProxy und #Paketverlust wie #KaBand in nem Schneesturm!

Wenigstens ne Art Abdeckkappe wie bei Herdanschluss wäre 1NICE!

• die korrekte Lösung wäre natürlich #RechtAufGlasfaser samt #FTTH in jede #Wohnung in Form von #10GBit/s #Ethernet auf #OS2 (oder bei kurzer Inhouse-Verkabelung #OM5)-Faserpaaren!

Und ja, #SharedMedia wie #GPON / #XGPON sind nur was #Funkstörungen angeht weniger problematisch als #DOCSIS-#Kabel!

• Immerhin: #TechnikeristInformiert und bestätigte meine Mutmaßung...

@CppGuy yeah, @torproject really got better since I started using @guardianproject / #Orbot 15 years ago because in #EDGEland, #Tor is a #PerformanceProxy!

@snep espechally on mobile!

• In my 15+ years of experience, @torproject / #Tor works as a #PerformanceProxy on #throttled #mobile networks in #EDGEland since #MNO|s and #MVNO|s don't properly negotiate a "link width" but #throttle by #dropping packets, adding #TCP #SlowStart as #latency.

OFC it won't make shit go faster, but more reliable.

• #latency is shit on all mobile networks that ain't straight-up #IP-based like #WiFi, Tor doesn't add that much to it...

In fact, Tor makes #throttled connections bearable for me for >15 years, as even back in 2008 one couldn't just get "unlimited data", espechally not as an individual (school child) without income or wealth!

@clubchonky I disagree.

• OFC @torproject / #Tor never was designed for low-latency, high-bandwith useage, but that's not the point.

IMHO using @guardianproject / #Orbot as a #PerformanceProxy even makes throttled #WWAN networks bearable!

• In terms of scale, Tor is pretty good and if all peers are within Tor, shit works just fine...

Issues aside it's now 15 years since I started using #Tor / @torproject & @guardianproject / #Orbot on #Android full-time.

• Not just for #privacy, but because it acts as a #PerformanceProxy on #throttled #German mobile networks!

Because in #EDGEland they yeet users to 64kBit/s if not even lower to 16kBit/s past paid bandwith and instead of properly renegotiating the bandwith, they trottle connections by reducing the packet rate / dropping packets, making it as #laggy as a #GSO-based #SATCOM connection!

• On top of that, almost all #MNO|s & #MVNO|s illegally use RFC1918 Address space, *espechally 10.0.0.0/8 for #CGNAT, thus bricking #VPN|s and sadly @BNetzA doesn't really give a damn!

@ajn142 @tinker @Em0nM4stodon +9001%

• Never stopped using @torproject / #Tor because @guardianproject #Orbot is a #PerformanceProxy on #EDGEland throttled networks!

#WhatsMissing:

A modern competitor to #OperaMini with:

• (optional) better #compression,
• (optional) #TUI / #TextBrowsing mode
• choice between different #proxies
• native #Tor, #IPFS & #Proxy Support
• Supporting #Android & #Linux
• Excellent #privacy features (only #allowlisted #Cookies and #JavaScript are being accepted!)
• Native #DarkReader-style integration to darkify or otherwise customize the output of the screen (i.e. print Amber / Green on black or Black on White for #eInk displays
• Can be used not just with a #touchscreen but also #Keypad and arrow keys.

Why?

• Because there needs to be more #competition that isn't yet another #Chromium-#Fork
• that is a good middle-ground between #Lynx and @torproject / #TorBrowser,
• Because @mozillaofficial / #Mozilla is fucking up #Firefox big time by wasting #money on anything but it as their core product...

OFC since #Opera #Mini needs a trustworthy proxy backend any "#clone" would need an #OpenSource'd & #SelfHosting-capable #backend (similar to @ActionRetro 's #FrogFind .com as it breaks #E2EE.

• Otherwise making the Browser just lie by not loading any #Multimedia contents like #images unless clicked may be another option chosen if one doesn't have a #Server to act as said #CompressionProxy / #PerformanceProxy in return...

Needless to say it would be a godsent for anyone stuck on #EDGEland and slower speeds (i.e. #SATCOM like #Iridium)...

• Sadly building a #browser is thousandsfold harder than building a Linux #distro...

@cr0n0s granted I'm quite happy with @monocles as #ItJustWorks with @guardianproject / #Orbot to connect any #OnionService / @torproject / #Tor-hosted #Server and beyond...

• Espechally since Tor works as a #PerformanceProxy on #EDGEland networks...

@ada I can recommend @Tusky / #Tusky because it's like the original #TweetDeck #App back in it's days but better and works perfectly fine over @torproject / #Tor using @guardianproject / #Orbot for #Torification...

• And yes, you want to use Tor as #PerformanceProxy espechally in #EDGEland...

@project1enigma it depends on the servers in the entire interaction and whether or not said contents are cached.

• I can recommend using #Tor / #Orbot as #PerformanceProxy on #mobile devices...

@j3rn nodds in agreement

If a website can't be used with #LynxBrowser over #Tor as a #PerformanceProxy whilst connected via #Iridium, then it's #ableidt garbage and should not exist at all!

@b0rk it's not a lecture but #InconvenientTruth that it's completely falling flat on it's face for anyone using a #VPN or #Tor...

And yes, if you're stuck on #EDGEland speeds you kinda need to use Tor as #PerformanceProxy...

@talviunelias the question is not what required #Tor but what did not !

If you're stuck on #EDGEland #2G speeds you need @torproject as #PerformanceProxy because #MNOs amd #MVNOs in #Germany do #throttling not by negotiating a lower #bandwith or lower #PacketRate, but by just #dropping packets.

And that fucks up everything, sith data speeds beingbeffectively on-par with #Iridium!

OFC they did that to force people to pay more for overpriced data packages...

I just said "Fuck you!" and when I didn't #Browse purposefully started #BitTorrent|ing a shitload of #FLOSS and espechally #Linux distros because with forced disconnects and absurdly low speeds, even #DownloadManagers like #jDownloader didn't work amd I needed to up date my shit anyway...

@landley @Linux_Is_Best TBH, I've yet to see any good #Chrome #fork that adds #value to the table...

Unlike say @torproject 's #TorBrowser which is a modified #FireFox...

#Vivaldi, like #Brave, don't add value.

#Opera's #Presto engine was good and #OperaMobile added a #VPN and #OperaMini a #PerformanceProxy for convenience to it.

@Velveteen Eeyupp...

The original #Opera was good - espechally #OperaMini & #OperaMobile which included a #PerformanceProxy in #Norway...

@dsfgs @torproject I didn't have any of these issues before and I'be been using #TorBrowser and #Orbot for over 13 years now on different mobile devices.

In fact, I'd rather experienced #Orbot to work like a #PerformanceProxy on throttled connections...